The CNCblock machining center is a major contributor to the high level of quality and performance on our engines. The problem with the thrust bearing is serious, and every Spitfire (or GT-6, or TR-6) owner should know how to check crank end play. Current car: 1980 Triumph Spitfire Past cars: 1975 Triumph Spitfire, 1973 Austin Mini, Thrust bearing in the proper size. To avoid offsetting the soon-to-be-realized power gains, make sure the new system is not too restrictive. 6500 16.47 18.96 Now that you have acceptable readings on the main journal make sure you clean the plastigauge off each crankshaft journal and bearing shell. 10 watching. Ray, that is a good point, the wet sleeve motors like the Triumph TR3/$ engines are not a engine I work with. I tried the Weber DGV for a while but the SU's are more responsive plus I get better gas mileage ( the 5 speed helps). If the margin (the vertical part of the valve just below the seat sealing area) is ground away during refacing it could leave a sharp edge that can lead to a burnt exhaust valve later on. Rocker shaft theres no dirt inclusions ,or scuffing , look very good to me Silodrome was founded in 2010 as a website dedicated to Gasoline Culture and all it entails - We write about modern cars, classic cars, motorcycles, racing, gear, gadgets, clothing, boats, planes, airships and the occasional submarine.Read more Silodrome 2023. all rights reserved. This should enable even 'inferior' bearings to be long lasting. These used to be cheap,but only Burton power (SC248)seems to have them now (7.61 ea). Some connecting rods will be a press fit type, and not need servicing other than pressing the old piston off and the new pistons on. This is done to prevent a piston ring from getting caught and breaking during installation. As JohnD mentioned, you can optimise the pump to minimise clearances between the body and rotor, see:http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/OilPump.htm. At the end of the day if it needs a rebuild every 40/50k its notthe end of the world as that is plenty of years use! Dont let this step scare you. FUEL PETROL PUMP (**See Engine No**) (1970- 74) 20.50. Pinning them with a couple of 4-40 flathead brass machine screws is a simple effective solution. The 1500 is a stroked 1300 and like all stroker engines, they make torque down low, but do not like higher RPMS. Full Engine Rebuild Kit - 1500 - RL1001RBK This full engine rebuild kit includes the minimum of parts required when rebuilding an engine (less crank & cam); and assumes that your cylinder block, head, crankshaft & camshaft are all serviceable. | Oil pump whether you replace with new or reuse your current oil pump you will need to disassemble it and check the clearances. Keep advancing the timing until you do, then retard just enough so you don't get any pinking. On the bench, apiston and gudgeon pin weighs 346gms, but this is under 1g, the acceleration due to Earth's gravity, In the 2.5L, at 6000rpm the piston reaches more than 2000g, andweighs nearly a tonne! Need someone to fit steel main caps to your block and line bore for the proper fit? All engines are run and broken in prior to installation or shipping to the customer. But all the above are expensive and competition related. anglefire is my forum name across all forums I use. Get the distributor modified to match the cam (the Distributor Doctor) and find somebody to set the carbs up on a rolling road. Make sure all stud and bolt threads are oiled. I tell my customers to go where the racers go. Well we offer that as well. There was an article in Classic Motorsport comparing different SUs to different Webers on the same MGB B-series engine. 100bhp should be achievable fairly easily. Motor runs excellent, no issues with state inspection and everything works as it is supposed to. Move to zero and then around and stop at .005 past zero. The bolts holding the adjustment on the cam gear are small (-28), and if you torqued your cam retaining nut later, which has a much higher torque spec, you could overpower the smaller bolts and change your cam timing. Is a lighter flywheel right for your classic? Your IP: Fuel pump work good (tested). It is extremely important that the filet radius (the edges of the journal where it joins back into the crankshaft body) is restored when the crank is reground. Never, ever fire up an engine without confirming you have oil pressure. By 1979 TRIUMPH SPITFIRE 1500 MK IV. What makes a Wishbone Classics engine better? Sort By Price (Not for racing, just to bring them into the 21st Century and to get my little Midget screaming down the road). That is not true but often repeated. The shop will most likely resurface the cylinder head to insure flatness, and provide for a good sealing surface for the head gasket. You will need a piston ring compressor. This is a good time to consider a performance cam. Quickview. Do both methods and you will see the dial indicator method can lead you astray by a couple degrees. Degreeing a camshaft Restoration of my Triumph. The Triumph SC (small car) engines were never derived fromtractors. Did mean I had to buy an engine hoist, load leveller and engine stand this week too. If you're a British car owner that seeks perfection, you will not find another engine rebuilder that is able to produce as fine of finished unit. Triumph Spitfire 1969-1980 Owners Workshop Manual: Glovebox Edition (Practical Classics & Car Restorer) $2000. The Spitfire has headed over to the garage where the brakes and suspension components have been stripped, sandblasted and painted and have started to be fitted. Re the pinking. These items are shipped from and sold by different sellers. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. It's the 1500cc variant, however, its had some cylinder head work and a fast road camshaft. All rights reserved. Maybe because its the one I raced back in the day, but it always just seemed better balanced than the 1500 for some reason. Detractors complained of durability anddrivabilityissues. If theres any drawback, its the legal ramifications. Powered by Gasoline and Caffeine. swaintech.com, Driving the short-lived MGA Twin Cam is magical, Classic Roadster Showdown: Alfa Romeo Spider vs. the Triumph TR6, An MGC Coupe that recalls the glory days of motorsport. Position it toward #1 piston and then bring the piston toward the top of the block. Add to Wish List. Set up the magnetic base and dial indicator on the front side of the cam, or cam gear, and moving the camshaft front to rear reading the movement on the indicator. From your local part store you will need to purchase the green plastigauge with a measurement range for .001-.003. Larger and the vital internal parts should be cleaned by professionals in an industrial parts washer. My GT has them and Rimmers show them on TR2 -4a, but not GTs or Spitfires. The crankshaft needs to be measured for wear and sizing. $118.99. But Ive stuck with it for reasons long since forgotten! Then I realised itd be quite cool to make it an animation. I thought for 30-40 I'd just change the bolts - more for piece of mind rather than anything else - not going ARP as the engine will be pretty much standard. Make sure the piston is marked front and that you are installing it in the proper direction. sorry real name is Mark - Ill update my signature when I get 5 ! The engine rebuild kits can be anything from stock, to mild, to wild street performance, to a even a full out race engine. Get notified when we add a new Triumph Spitfire Manual. You will want to ask around for the shop that has the best reputation for crankshaft work. If your crankshaft is out of spec and has to be reground, there are several under-sizes of crankshaft bearings available. Other Areas of your Engine Most machine shops have a special tool that can cut all three angles at the same time. Exhaust valves For most, dropping off the cylinder head complete to a machine shop is the best idea. The first step is buying the right parts. Personally, I'd just check the originals for signs of stretch and reuse them. Buy Triumph Spitfire Fuel Pumps and get the best deals at the lowest prices on eBay! But this is for high revving engines, not road use. I highly recommend Moss uprated valve seals. With the degree wheel and pointer installed, put the magnetic base on the top of the engine block surface or deck. Austin Healey, MG or Triumph we can build it better than original and to any performance level. I would like to fit a sports exhaust at the same time too. Anyway even with the taller gears the engine isn't so high strung that it lugs at all. There are some things I liked about the spit but not enough to keep it around. Regrinding the original cast iron exhaust seat is a short term answer, as valve seal will be lost in a short period of time. Sidedraft carbs are the best alternative, especially twin Weber DCOEs. Bare J-type OD base rebuild pricing is $1399. As of March 2007, all of our engine block work is carried out to the extremes of perfection on a CNCengine machining center. All rights reserved. Move the crankshaft the normal operating rotation (clockwise when facing the front of the engine) until you see the needle reach maximum camshaft lift. In this way, conrods can be made 15% lighter and stronger than the OE ones. If you build a 1500 properly and respect it then this much maligned engine can be as dependable as any other Spitfire engine. He said he'd had problems with soft lock tabs on other engines messing uptorque readings. Hadone on the street will all the competition Cooper S parts. The intake will have receded. You will need some headwork, and a skim o achieve a higher compression ratio (depends on the cam). I was not aware of the header from the UK. I replaced the original exhaust header with a Pacesetter which increased the pipe diameter to about 2"but have learned there are better ones available. The downdraft sends the mixture down to a flat surface in the intake manifold where it splatters and pools rather than smoothly reaching the head. When you achieve the same degrees BTDC and ATDC your wheel will show TRUE TDC. A fair amount of work, but nothing too technical, and it saves the engine. They don't appear on any of the Canley GT6 diagrams, but they were certainly there the first time I took the sump off in 1979, or there abouts. Triumphs and Jags back in 1972 (58k scanned image of an official price sheet) Building an engine test stand Assorted first hand tech rebuilds Rebuilding Seats Windshield chrome Trim Oil Cooler Installation New Pistons and rings Grinding Rings New Dashboard Front Spring lowering Stainless Steel Brake Lines Rear axle tricks Interior Trim Perhaps our biggest issue was simply the original setups drivability. I know I was able to replace the thrust bearing in my TR-6 by dropping the pan and removing the rear main bearing cap, but can't remember if it the same on the Spitfire. I dont like refacing valves. Both BMC (B series engines) and Triumph (the Vanguard/TR wet liner engine) also used the engines in all sorts of different applications - main vans, boats and tractors, but they weren't designed for agricultural use in the first place. The Kent fast road grind has a lot of lift but not a lot of duration which keeps the power band from being pushed too high. If you feel any resistance, make sure the ring compressor is tamped square against the block deck, and if you still feel resistance, you may want to look in the bottom of the block and make sure your connecting rod is not interfering with the crankshaft. Buy your used Triumph Spitfire motors/engines from us and save time and money. A larger motor was needed. As a rule of thumb, its best to replace the rod bolts. 3 times until he put the Vandervells in and were find after 6 events. I like to get parts down to bare metal, because painting over old paint is a mixed bag of nuts. Rebuilding A Triumph Spitfire Engine Reading time: about 1 minute | Written by Ben Branch | August 25th 2013 11 Months, 3000 pictures and a lot of coffee. You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. Scott Sewell. Short stroke Vs long stroke: The 1147 & 1300s can all rev much higher than a 1500, the 1500 due to its bigger capacity has more low down pulling Torque. So, if not Vandervell, what other makes are recommended? MG, Given that MG and Triumph were both owned and built by BLMC, choosing the Spitfire motor for both was a no brainer. If youve got the okay from Johnny Law, a straightforward swap to dual SU carburetors can net you a more fun and agile driving machine. As for the MG Midget, I preferred the 1275. do make sure you stick to 97+ or better fuel, **95 ul was for side valves and mowers when these cars were born. This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. Those upgrades transformed my previously 1300 powered car, and it did well at club autocrosses. 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